All of "the signs of the times" that JWs used to recite to remind themselves that they were in the time of the end have been thrown on the scrapheap by the Governing Body. NO JW an argue effectively from the Bible that there is any more chance that he will live to see armageddon as there was a chance of Abraham Lincoln seeing Armageddon. They are rudderless and adrift in the stream of time.
Nathan Natas
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Unexpected conversation with a long time JW friend (in good standing)
by OneDayillBeFree inso tonight after the meeting, this brother whome i've grown up with invited me to eat.
he had come almost an hour late to the meeting and looked kind of down and a bit depressed.
i agreed to go eat.. there was very little talking at first.
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Fear of Dying
by snare&racket ini was thinking about how to explain to a family member how i have no fear or issue with not living in a paradise earth etc.
they dont believe i left the jws for good reason, they think like every jw that i must be bitter about the religion or something.. .
i am an atheist and for many reasons i dont fear death, but i was trying to think of a way to explain it from a jw perspective when it hit me...... it doesnt matter.. option a: do t believe in god and believe that i will die and there will be eternal nothingness.
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Nathan Natas
Comedian/Atheist Penn Gillette had a good comment on this. He pointed out that he did not exist 200 years ago, yet the thought of 1812 did not fill him with fear and dread; he knows that he also will not exist in 2212 and feels no fear or dread at that prospect.
Although The WATCHTOWER teaches otherwise, DEATH IS NATURAL. ALL living things in the universe die. It is EVERLASTING LIFE that is an unnatural and horrifying concept.
"Let me show you from the Bible how God's will is for you to eat lasagna for all of eternity..."
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....and a new wrinkle
by outsmartthesystem inso i was giving my daughter a hug at bed time last night.
she stands up at the foot of her bed and wraps her arms around my neck.
she then asks why i don't serve jehovah anymore.
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Nathan Natas
You can defuse her argument easily by agreeing with her. She's only five years old, so her reasoning skills are not very sophisticated.
Tell her, "God knows everything, right? ...and God is all-powerful, right? so nobody can resist God, can they? So everybody is doing what God wants them to do. If god want you to go to the Kingdom Hall, you should go. but if God wants you to go to the zoo where you can admire his creation, then you should do that too. god likes it when we admire the things he's done for us. Why don't we go to the zoo on sunday and admire God's creation?"
Let her grandparents and her Mom tell her that Jehovah is not all powerful and that jehovah CAN be resisted. then you can ask why her Mom thinks Jehovah is so weak.
Confusion can be the first step toward truth. Confusion is cognitive dissonance: the conflict between two opposite ideas.
Later you can talk to her about being happy. Is Jehovah a happy God? Does he want us to be happy? How can you tell when people are happy? What if someone says they are happy but they really are not happy - can you tell they aren't really happy? Do the people in the Kingdom Hall look happy, or do they look sad? Is Mommy happy or is Mommy angry? If Mommy did what Jehovah wanted, wouldn't she be happy?
Truth is simple.
Keep your arguments simple. Let her Mom and her grandparents beat their brains out trying to explain how complicated "the truth" is.
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Blondie is awesome!!!
by Sheep2slaughter ini'm just sayin... blondie...are you a lawyer or investigator or what!?
her/your weekly watchtower comments we won't hear at the watchtower indoctrination are amazing.
so much work.
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Nathan Natas
She's A MAN, baby!
and her old man is a CHICK!
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Has anybody takin' Prilosect for gall bladder problems
by wasblind ini went to the doc last week told of my symptoms and she.
suspect a gall bladder problem.
so i have to take this med for a week to see if it relieves the sypmtoms.
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Nathan Natas
Do some research on prilosec - how is it supposed to help a gall bladder problem?
If you want to take choline, get yourself some soy lecithin capsules.
I am neither a doctor or a shaman.
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Jehovah's Witnesses and magic ... is some magic okay? where do you draw the line?
by wannabefree inthis question came to my mind today as i was cleaning with my handy dandy mr. clean magic eraser.. .
with little to no effort put forth, this white little anomaly erases tea and coffee stains from your favorite mug and makes red kool-aid stains disappear from counter tops.. .
what kind of dark magic is contained in this soft, white, non-threating piece of foam rubber?.
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Nathan Natas
Unfortunately, the Mr. Clean MAGIC Eraser doesn't employ REAL metaphysical Magic or the twisting of the laws of time and space, so it is OK for JWs, who are used to buying in to misrepresented products.
Examples of other misrepresentations that JWs are suckers for include "Faithful and disceet Slaves", "New Light", and a literal place where dead souls reside*.
In the case of the Magic Eraser, here's the secret of how it works: the white pad is a piece of melamine plastic foam. Melamine (melmac) is a pretty hard plastic, and in use the foam breaks down into little tiny hard abrasive particles. The abrasice particles remove a thin layer of the offensive mark. when you scrub with it.
*This one is a real killer, no pun intended. JWs will tell you that the bible teaches that we do not HAVE a soul, but that we ARE soulds. Then, when pressed, they will tell you that when you die, the soul that you do not have goes to a place called Sheol (I think that's in Korea) to await the resurrection. So remember, there is no hell but there is a heaven and when you die the soul that tou do not have goes to a literal place called Sheol (maybe it's not in Korea; it might be on the planet Alcyone).
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German court rules religious circumcision on boys an assault
by mind blown inwonder how jw germans get around the blood/issue doctrine?.
http://news.yahoo.com/german-court-outlaws-religious-circumcision-172728400.html.
circumcising young boys on religious grounds amounts to grievous bodily harm, a german court ruled tuesday in a landmark decision that the jewish community said trampled on parents' religious rights.. the regional court in cologne, western germany, ruled that the "fundamental right of the child to bodily integrity outweighed thefundamental rights of the parents", a judgement that is expected to set a legal precedent.. "the religious freedom of the parents and their right to educate their child would not be unacceptably compromised, if they were obliged to wait until the child could himself decide to becircumcised," the court added.. the case was brought against a doctor in cologne who had circumcised a four-year-old muslim boy on his parents' wishes.. a few days after the operation, his parents took him to hospital as he was bleeding heavily.
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Nathan Natas
My apologies, I was poorly informed.
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Sparlock worked his magic this weekend!
by 00DAD inyes it's true, i got to experience first hand the awesome magic powers of sparlock, the warrior wizard!tm.
this last weekend a friend of mine asked me if i could take him to the mechanic's to pick up his car after being serviced.
now this friend of mine (who is not and has never been a jw) is the the one and only friend that i've remained in constant contact with through the dark quarter century of my life when i was a witness.
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Nathan Natas
I love this! Thanks for sharing!
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German court rules religious circumcision on boys an assault
by mind blown inwonder how jw germans get around the blood/issue doctrine?.
http://news.yahoo.com/german-court-outlaws-religious-circumcision-172728400.html.
circumcising young boys on religious grounds amounts to grievous bodily harm, a german court ruled tuesday in a landmark decision that the jewish community said trampled on parents' religious rights.. the regional court in cologne, western germany, ruled that the "fundamental right of the child to bodily integrity outweighed thefundamental rights of the parents", a judgement that is expected to set a legal precedent.. "the religious freedom of the parents and their right to educate their child would not be unacceptably compromised, if they were obliged to wait until the child could himself decide to becircumcised," the court added.. the case was brought against a doctor in cologne who had circumcised a four-year-old muslim boy on his parents' wishes.. a few days after the operation, his parents took him to hospital as he was bleeding heavily.
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Nathan Natas
I got trimmed soon after birth because it was "the thing to do" with boys - ALL boys - born in New York City in the 1940s and 50s.
I would advise against it if I was asked, but no one asks.
If someone was determined to do this to their son, OK go ahead.
This is blatant anti-semitism because only Jews practice religious circumcision.
Why hasn't Germany issued protection to BOTH sexes? Could it be because Muslims - a growing segement of the german populace - like to practice female circumcision, which if FAR more disfiguring and cruel than male circumcision ever was.
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Nathan Natas
Sorry, but pictures are not likely to be happening anytime soon, out of respect for the delicate sensibilities of women and children.
As for whether or not "it happened," the producer of the t-shirt KNOWS it did. Let's start a thread arguing about if I bought some SPARLOCK t-shirts or not; everyone's opinion is welcome and no opinion matters.